Conclusions

Temple of the Heart Satsang
March 4th 2013

GauraHari: I was thinking we should start out with a new teaching today, I mean come on we shouldn't be bored with the same old teachings. So I think now is the time we have to institute a new procedure here that it's time now to find fault with the devotees. It's time to become fault-finders because this is the higher level of teaching this time, I hope everyone will agree with this. (laughter)
MahaVirya: Talk about turning on a dime
GH: We'll start out with the Acharyas who this wild Acharya Prabhodananda Saraswate who found fault with those who were following the spiritual path and probably devotees too, Vaishnavas. Its called the chapter 'Criticism of those who are not devotees of Lord Chaitanya'. (Laughter) See I cracked a good joke today, it was nice huh? Suprising. OK so he starts out 'My mind thinks that a person who has countless pious credits, and has completely taken shelter of Lord Hari, but who does not worship Lord Chaitanya is very poor and unfortunate'. You know I'm seeing that more and more now, it's why I chose this chapter especially on facebook I put that little thing out there - devotees even! You know they believe in Krishna but they don't really know Lord Chaitanya and the grace he has given and they almost have a little faith in the moralistic philosophies, faith in austerities, faith in other paths and you know Prabhodananda doesn't preach like that and you know anybody that gets a little glimpse of the mercy of Lord Chaitanya also you can totally understand why he was preaching like this. And I think devotees here are starting to see that also the mercy is so astounding and still readily available, of course you usually gotta find somebody who has a little attachment for Lord Chaitanya that help alot. (laughter) You know? Otherwise people are into Peace, into more Austerity and other paths. One person was 'Its so hard to let go', its so hard to let go and what was it? Gain something. Anyway, people are for something -
MV: It's hard to hold on, it's hard to let go.
GH: Its hard to hold on, it's hard to let go. Yeah and its, people are poor and unfortunate without a relationship with Lord Chaitanya. You know, and they are preaching this following in line with the Acharyas. Really its a, everybody if they want to make it out of this path of very difficult austerities and thinking that you have to give up first before you can get anything, you know, you have to get this -
Meena: The way to Lord Chaitanya is through Nityananda.
GH: Yes, and can you explain that?
Meena: Um, probably not that well at this point.
GH: Well how would you explain the way to Nityananda practically in these days?
Meena: Nityananda's reaching out to others, even at the expense of getting maybe attack or especially being misunderstood.
GH: Mhm, how is he reaching out?
Meena: Well remembering the pastime Jagai and Madai, asking them to chant and surrender, glorifying Lord Chaitanya and um..
GH: Yeah you see, the thing is, why are the devotees, if Nityananda's reaching out then why are the devotees, I mean well some devotees may be, but why in general, why was there confusion when Prabhupada left? Why is there confusion now, why are devotees going to lesser paths. why are devotees teaching the way they are doing? Why are devotees jumping to Manjari Bhava when they don't even know much about Lord Chaitanya?
Meena: Well, Why didn't devotees get enthusiastic about distributing Prabhupadas books? Why didn't they get enthusiastic about approaching people about his books and going on street sankirtan? They weren't enthusiastic even when Prabhupada was here to do those things. Alot of the devotees, some were.
GH: They were?
Meena: Some were, they were more attached to maintaining the temple building. and community development within the varnashram kind of situation.
GH: Yeah, well still Nityananda reaches out this is kind of a no brainer once you understand how Nityananda reaches out, he reaches out through his representative and you can see the phenomena. When Nityananda reached out through Bhaktivinode Thakura there was an expansion in the mercy of Krishna consciousness. When he reached out Nityananda reached out through his representative Bhaktivinode Thakura, Bhaktisidanta Saraswate Thakura, there is an expansion in the mercy. Nityananda reached out through A.C.Bhativedanta Prabhupada these are chosen representatives, very very dear to Nitai and Gaura. See, so whenever, and it's not always like a once, this reach out is capturing people in different phases you know like the rocket going up into outer space, it has different stages,a dn then it fires these retro-rockets and it takes to get out. So Nityanandas mercy is going through the representitive and thats the secret and this is what Prabhodananda Saraswate Thakura said unless a devotee of Lord Chaitanya, which is Nitai-Gaura they go together, unless we meet devotees of Lord Chaitanya we will not feel that expansion and often when the devotee departs, there's all kinds of confusion alot of people they're called glow-worms they try to take the place of a genuine representative and they can't cause the same kind of expansion. See its only done by the Lord himself, only Lord Chaitanya can take the place of Lord Chaitanya, through the authorised representatives. It's always that way, and always will be that way. If there's any problems it's just because of lack of an Acharya being here. See, the devotees are very important they cause that expansion and it goes through the devotees of the devotees, Lord Chaitanya works through them, also. See that potency is the same, Bhakti is Bhakti. Prabhupada taught this, if a Godbrother is seen to have the symptoms of our guru he should be treated as with almost as much respect as our own guru, because Bhakti is Bhakti. And that protects one from falling into the Vaishnava Aparad. Which is what kills Bhakti every time. Its why its not easy you know, you have to really truly become non-envious. See this is our, see this is really the path, beautiful path. Wonderful and its here, and boy isn't it a narrow gate huh Mahavirya? (laughter) you think Jesus was preaching a narrow gate this is really narrow. (laughter)
MV: It's simultaneously the narrowist, and the widest.
GH: I swear it man, you are a mind-reader. I was just thinking that and you beat me to it. That guys getting really quick he's getting quicker than me, he used to be really slow. Now he's like lightning.
MV: Because the key is really this (Sanskrit) , is having ones eyes anointed with the pulp of love. Then there's no problem, there's no more problem, this material world becomes like the water contained in the hoof print of a calf. Because material nature you know, like the devotee's like a kitten in the mouth of the cat, material nature. Even prakriti is very gentle with the devotee because he sees Krishna, ah its a shadow but whose shadow is it its Radharani's shadow, so wonderful you know. It is a divine energy of the Lord, so there's no devotee whose against so many thing. When you're against something, you magnify it. It's a very basic principle all the new age people know that. You know, don't be against war, be for peace. So be for love of God, not to renounce this and that that would impair that.. anyway I'm a little bit crazy at the moment.
GH: Hey I love it man. I got this crazy idea this morning because I was looking at all these pictures I snapped because I like to look at them again and again. And I was thinking what can I do with all these pictures, because it looks like the guy is completely drunk and intoxicated with the mood you know is it possible to use these and I said oh yeah, show what spiritual intoxication is, we actually teach what does spiritual intoxication look like and we just put all these pictures up there and now we have some use for them. Because people don't know and they'll probably never see for their whole life unless we put them out. Make more drunkards out there. See thats another quality, Meena, of Nityananda, he has the power to make drunkards make people crazy like that see a little bit strange so if Nityanandas potency is here we'll see those symptoms.
Meena: Yeah Lord Nityananda becomes intoxicated himself.
GH: Yeah, Bhakti is -
Meena: Balaram he really gets into the honey
GH: Yeah the honey represents the glories of the Lord they are very intoxicating, see, but there is no more karma and instead of feeling more dense and more foolish and stupid, you become foolish to the world maybe, but you become more intelligent than the greatest scholar in the universe actaully, it's like Shiva you see him beating that drum and dancing madly. He's the most intelliegent being in the world, in the whole universe actually.
MV: I can't believe that I was just thinking that, the vaidi Bhakti's, they are singing every day to the spiritual master (prayers to spiritual master in Sanskrit) the mind of the spiritual master is always absorbed in the Rasa, glorifying Lord Chaitanya! Chanting! Dancing... I mean whats keeping you up guys? This is the path.
GH: Yeah what is it? Anyway we have our little work cut out for us here. So, next criticism of the world. See I love criticism see you can't give up criticism, you have to utilise it in Krishna's service. So that's really it, so see even this we have to dovetail. Because we all have this, because you just want to criticise something. This is the way to do it, you can do it under the Acharyas direction and make something wonderful of it. Pathetic (laughing) Pathetic are the followers of vedic rituals (laughing) Pathetic are the Vaidhi Bhaktis!? You Vaidi Bhakti persons are so pathetic man! (laughing) I stand by Prabhodananda Saraswate in my conclusions.