Raganuga Verses Vaidi Bhakti

9th March 2013

MH: OK why don't we have a bit of this ah, since devotees are sepping onto the platform of Raganuga Bhakti, just a bit of practical knowledge from Vishvanath Chakravarti Thakur, what can you expect on this platform of spontaneous devotional service. So
'in this connection Sri Krishna has spoken to Uddhava, he Uddhava says, if one simply takes up the practice of the religion devotion in the matter of hearing and chanting about me. Even if there is some defect or omission of some of the limbs of Bhakti there is no harm in this, because this devotional service is completely transcendental and absolute. Therefore in no way in any shape or form is there any way of it perishing because this religion has been established by me in affinity with those devotees who no material motivations.'
GH: You know this is very wonderful verse, God that explains what we are doing to a tee. You notice that nobody, everyone who has left our temple of the heart has had some material motivation because this path is the religion of devotion and its so funny, its a simple one but if you just hear without material motivation and you just want to hear and chant just because you like to do what Krishna did. Thats all he wants to do he just wants to relish his association with his devotees. Then you can walk this path.
MV: Thats an important point also, Krishna says even if there is some omision or defect of some of the limbs of Bhakti, so thats what alot of devotees tend to do yo9u know if its not, they try to come to Raganuga Bhakti but if its not in line with what they know from Vaidi Bhakti they cant go on see? Because this the religion of devotion in the matter of hearing and chanting.
GH: Oh I love you Vishvanath Chakravarti man I am tuned, Im tuned in to that fork, we were talking about tuning into. Wow you're actually preaching that yes.
MV: So he's shed a little light in the difference between Vaidi Bhakti and Raganuga Bhakti he says:
'in this connection, what is to be understood is this, when after hearing of the sweet moods and sentiments of the Brajabats (?) especially those of shangarvats (?) one desires that if only I might also be able to experience these kind of feelings of the Lord Sri Krishna, then only once this kind of covetousness has been arosed in him he is no longer dependent on the argument and the reason of the scriptures if such dependance on reason and argument of the scriptures exists, then the perfection of covetousness or eager longing is not possible.'
See that confirms it, its just two kinds of Bhakti, if your eagerness doesn't go beyond the rules of the scriptures then you don't qualify for this level of Raganuga Bhakti, not that the devotee will make a point to go against the Vaidi Bhakti. But if the mood is not proper for this sentiment then he may neglect some limbs of Bhakti right. Like yourself? You weren't so much into going to the morning program, you are more into reading Chaitanya Charitamrita. But one that has this spontaneous attraction...
GH: Yeah you know, I run into this every day with the devotees here practically. Even where I live they're all looking at me "Gaura Hari, we never see you coming to the temple" they're all dressed up in the morning, they even they get up later than me. They're kinda scratching their heads, they're Brahmins and how does this guy get up at two O clock and he's chanting like you wont believe and he's dancing like a madman and we can barely get up but how come he dosn't go to a program like us? and people everyday they're concerned Gaurahari we never see you at the temple what are you doing? I say well I have a program here, they look at it like it's funny thats not right you're omiting things. I also start to wonder and I omiting is this right? But this confirms it cause thats what I just feel.
MV: 'How do we contact this how do we get it? The philosophical arguments of the scripture have not been seen to engender this eager longing in anyone, by hearing about this subject matter or by seeing someone or something related to these topics it can be noted that this eager longing is produced of and by itself'
It's like you catch a cold, you catch this love in your heart. You can study the scripture you can study everything about Rasa and all that and this Vishvanath Chakravarti Thakur says it ah
'The philosophical arguments of the scriptures have not been seen to engender this longing to anyone'
You see?
GH: Yeah not only hearing, you gotta see it, you gotta actually see this demonstrated in the world....You see this is what was happening 500 years ago,  people at first when they saw it they thought it was weird shouldn't do it but Lord Chaitanya and his men they were just naurally going down the street in happiness and chanting. At first it created alot of disturbance but then they thought wow this is great and became eager for it. You know it's happening around here, you Im going around, I have to use my example because you gotta use your example, Im going around Maypur chanting with my little friend here and people think its weird but these shopkeepers are really attracted, 'oh man come to my shop and lets chant and Oh I love this mood' Cause they have never really seen anything like this.
MV: Niyananda is known to be the deliverer of the Merchant class hes probably doing that also
GH: Thats so funny because the Merchant himself says "God this is so Avadutta" now he doesn't know I have all these titles here hes saying "This is so Avadutta, this is what all the Avadutta's do" And he doesn't know that I actually took a title (laughter). So its so funny, see they gotta see the Avadutta thing. See dancing around Maypur they think its a little weird because nobody's doing it, they are all like herds of cows just going down the track everything is organised its like a program and they got this guy is just completely out of the program. You know going around dancing and singing from his heart with all these lovely melodies and looking around, I should take a video you wouldn't believe it. And I love it man because I can just be myself. Thats so great reading that because thats how it is, that will help the devotees understand whats happening because its not off track. We're practicing the religion of devotion, there's a point where you are chanting from your heart see and its not like a program you know its very fluid, like Meena was saying with Prabhupadaq it was very fluid. Hey man if you want to tune into this fork its where its at.